Intel who?

Hades · 03-10-2010, 11:31 AM

Just incase you intel fanboys have something to say... read here.

Most Powerful Supercomputer in the World Powered by the Six-Core AMD Opteron? Processor

AMD is lightyears ahead server side. 12 cores coming to a server near you.

Hades · 03-10-2010, 11:38 AM

YouTube - Cray Upgrades "Kraken" Supercomputer with Six-Core AMD Opteron Processors

dapriest · 03-10-2010, 12:09 PM

Just so you know Intel is in the same market.

Gulftown (microprocessor) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

At the end of the day. It doesn't matter what processor you have, its all about application. What are you using it for.

AMD is great for crunching numbers, floating point, databases.

Hades · 03-10-2010, 02:37 PM

One thing AMD has been doing differently is supporting older motherboards... so full upgrades aren't required. Intel isn't as nice from my experiences with them.

cruziopablod · 03-10-2010, 03:09 PM

when AMD was having issues with floating point processes, in certain games, and such. Finally, they have arrived. Might have to reconsider AMD next time, in a couple of years.

dapriest · 03-10-2010, 03:13 PM

Yea, they've been pretty good about that.

AMD starting with integrating the south/north bridges worked in their favour. Intel had to do it over many socket types.

jigabooplz · 03-10-2010, 03:27 PM

intel has been changing their architecture so dramatically lately that they have had to change socket types. now im not gonna support that theory for the core i3 and core i7 because those two should have used the same damn socket type.

but between the p4 and the core2 was a dramatic change in the way the processor works, then from core2 to core i7 they did another major change by doing away with the front side bus all together...

amd has not made this many changes to their overall design...they just make the cores smaller and add more cores. bios flash and everything is good.

Hades · 03-10-2010, 08:06 PM

Yes your right Jigga... my problem with intel systems goes back to the tulantins. They refused to release the p3 tulantin cpus because it was kicking the shit out of p4's with the rambus. (epid fail) Anyway... I haven't had much love for them since but I do respect their hardware it does perform pretty well. It is faster than AMD in many ways but price / performance it doesn't compare imo.

The opterons are tough to keep up with... they are really fuckin stable and reliable. We had an intel server for a while then moved to a dual opty... it never died and still works.

dapriest · 03-11-2010, 12:28 PM

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Yes your right Jigga... my problem with intel systems goes back to the tulantins. They refused to release the p3 tulantin cpus because it was kicking the shit out of p4's with the rambus. (epid fail) Anyway... I haven't had much love for them since but I do respect their hardware it does perform pretty well. It is faster than AMD in many ways but price / performance it doesn't compare imo.

The opterons are tough to keep up with... they are really fuckin stable and reliable. We had an intel server for a while then moved to a dual opty... it never died and still works.

Lol, you're talking about a server. Not a processor. We have dells, with intel processors and haven't had all that much trouble.

Honestly, there is no difference between processors on a reliability aspect. Unless well there is a fab fault, and then you're screwed. Which hasn't happened well since the p4's.

As I said before, the only different between the processors is how you use them in an application. For isntance, optys are nice for databses, they seem to out perform intels.

Hades · 03-12-2010, 09:30 AM

Yeh that's what i was getting at mainly priest the data base stuff. Server side they really give you what you paid for. Our dual opty server needed less reboots and less love than our intel setup.

You know heaps more about server side shit than I do though I get this info from friends in the industry mainly. They are opteron whores.

dapriest · 03-13-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hades

Yeh that's what i was getting at mainly priest the data base stuff. Server side they really give you what you paid for. Our dual opty server needed less reboots and less love than our intel setup.

You know heaps more about server side shit than I do though I get this info from friends in the industry mainly. They are opteron whores.

As long as they know something about linux will I take them seriously. I mean unless you've tried everything under the sun, you're more or less pull shit out of your ass.

Once you've used Windows/Linux/OSX, you'll become less abrasive about "FUCK AMD" or "INTEL ROCKS". At the end of the day, it just has to work.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that you can be a fanboy. But in reality, you should know that its about what you're doing. I recommend things based on what the application is, and what they're going to use it for. Not because AMD is the SHIT, and Intel sucks donkey balls.

Hades · 03-13-2010, 04:43 PM

We always ran our public/lan servers in some flavor of nix or bsd. One of the gang re-writes kernals for the game servers etc and I have dabbled in it from time to time on the networking side. Steve is the only guy I know that made a 100mbit connect function at nearly 100 percent but that's going back nearly 10 years when we used corebuilders with the fiber ring between switches.

Other than the shitty file transfer speeds it was the smoothest gaming I ever remember playing even to this day. That was the best part about ring tech back then... packet crashes were nil creating a super smooth network. All our clients were 10mbit and the ring was over 100mbit fiber which at the time was pretty hot. It cost us all a fortune to purchase all that gear off ebay etc... getting fiberlines terminated with the correct connections. This enabled us to run dual game servers out of the 2 existing 100mbit ports on each corebuilder with each switch connected via fiber and clients on 10mbit. blah blah blah... back then it was AWESOME!!! lol.

We could provide 24 ports of gaming total and if we needed more we'd daisy chain off the 100mbit... everyone wanted to be on the corebuilders though.

ANYWAY... the opty server was the best one we built to date i put 1000 bux toward it a few years back and Steve spent weeks writing and re-writing the kernals until they were not only tiny but really fucking fast.

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jigabooplz Jigabush Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Egypt Age: 27 Posts: 2,687 Casino cash: $1457360 Thanks: 45 Thanked 151 Times in 124 Posts	intel has been changing their architecture so dramatically lately that they have had to change socket types. now im not gonna support that theory for the core i3 and core i7 because those two should have used the same damn socket type. but between the p4 and the core2 was a dramatic change in the way the processor works, then from core2 to core i7 they did another major change by doing away with the front side bus all together... amd has not made this many changes to their overall design...they just make the cores smaller and add more cores. bios flash and everything is good. __________________

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