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Old 02-16-2010, 08:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Money is always the issue in the end...
I pretty much agreed with everything in this movie expect the dissolution of the justice system and the military.
I'm just getting into this and haven't read too much into yet but I've always believed in a future where we better ourselves as a whole. The way it works now for something to benifit humanity it first has to create a profit otherwise there's no sense doing it.
Here's a plan for a future without money.
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The Venus Project F.A.Q. on the zeitgeist website.
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The Venus Project is not a Utopian concept. We do not believe in the erroneous notion of a utopian society. There is no such thing. Societies are always in a state of transition. We propose an alternative direction, which addresses the causes of many of our problems. There are no final frontiers for human and technological achievement - it will always undergo change. Even if we can design a society having all of the modifications to improve the lives of people and protect the environment we will still be at the beginning of the next phase.
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I've seen the whole thing its pretty good.
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This is about a year or more ago, when it was made?
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I'll trade you 3 chickens for 10 loaves of bread. I'll build you a deck for some electricity. I'll give you 2 sheep for 7 blankets. Yea right that will work well.
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Ehem... /me brings out a copy of the Communist Manifesto...

What you speak of is communism in its pure form. We may never see communism as it was truly envisioned by its author Karl Marx (noted; Friedrich Engles). We sure as hell have not seen it yet...

I am not a fan of communism as I am an American that loves the fact that I live like a king today when my forefathers did not. I am also not a fan of socio-capitalism however.
Ireesh hit on a sore point in my soul. The Kennedy's were killed because they gained power via the system that has controlled the world for many hundreds of years (if not thousands as some say). They simply used the power that they had obtained to dismantle the very system (and its controllers) which/whom put them in the seat in the first place. Call it a FLIP-A-ROO... As we all know however, when a dog bites the hand that feeds him, he is put down.... Lets all never forget we are still animals; Those with the money are the zoo keepers.
I find that a good mix of both the capitalist structure of government, mixed with a lesser posit or interference by government, can lead to what the books call true democracy. Unfortunetly we are moving in the direction of social-capitalism...
In the end, the later two mentioned systems are flawed in that human greed coupled with other intrical parts of human nature will ALWAYS corrupt the seemingly perfect system. Communism in its purest form however does not allow for some of those same human virtues to corrupt its system. It relies more on a working class of individuals to sustain it at its core. However, all of these systems are flawed in some manner. As long as we continue to be human.... hahah.... there will never exist a perfect system.
Most would say democracy has been the least flawed form of government... In its end however (or in decline), simply turns into socialism....

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I'll trade you 3 chickens for 10 loaves of bread. I'll build you a deck for some electricity. I'll give you 2 sheep for 7 blankets. Yea right that will work well.
Who would you tade with when eveyone would the basic needs of food, shelter and healthcare. If you watched wally that's what these guys have in mind automation of almost every single job.

USMC communism requires money to work too

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